1 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,360 All right. 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,240 It's for Jessica Starling and Joshua Lewis. 3 00:00:27,420 --> 00:00:28,420 Hello. 4 00:00:32,299 --> 00:00:33,980 Can you come in? Thank you. 5 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,380 Jessica. Jessica. Jessica. 6 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Thank you. Have a seat. Thank you. And Joshua. 7 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,460 Josh. Yeah, Josh. 8 00:00:43,020 --> 00:00:44,020 Jessica and Josh. 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,940 Well, hello. It's very nice to meet you. 10 00:00:48,340 --> 00:00:50,040 My name is Dr. 11 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:51,560 Penny Barber. 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:59,240 I have been practicing family therapy for about, you 13 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,060 know, 16 months now. 14 00:01:02,220 --> 00:01:05,480 And I love it. My passion is very into it. 15 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,200 And I was wondering if you'd be willing to tell me a little bit about yourself, 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,740 Jessica. 17 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,220 There's his father a few years ago. 18 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,200 It's been working out very well for me. 19 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,940 So you're his stepmom? Yes, I am his stepmom. 20 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:33,520 If you can sense, there's a little bit of tension there. 21 00:01:33,860 --> 00:01:38,020 Okay. Yeah, well, I like to go to the country club. 22 00:01:38,780 --> 00:01:40,280 I like to have a glass of wine. 23 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,520 And I like to go shopping with my girlfriends. 24 00:01:44,430 --> 00:01:47,650 Those all sound like lovely, lovely diversions. 25 00:01:48,190 --> 00:01:50,850 So, are you working right now? 26 00:01:51,730 --> 00:01:57,830 No. No? No. Okay. No. I don't have time for that. I mean, between getting my 27 00:01:57,830 --> 00:02:04,550 nails done and my hair appointments and shopping, and I just, I really need to 28 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:09,550 have about four to five glasses of wine a day. I'm just not myself, you know. 29 00:02:10,330 --> 00:02:12,410 Four to five glasses of wine per day? 30 00:02:12,670 --> 00:02:15,020 Okay. Are you writing that down? 31 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:21,900 I'm not writing it down, actually. I like to take my notes digitally with the 32 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:22,900 camera. 33 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,100 That's not going to go anywhere, is it? 34 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:31,800 No, no, no. It's like a private file. Just think of it as a digital version of 35 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,100 notebook. Okay. 36 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,260 But, Joshua, you're so quiet over there. 37 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,400 What do you like to do? I really want to be here. 38 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,060 Okay. Well, that's all right. Thank you for coming. 39 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:47,340 Yeah, no problem. 40 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Okay. 41 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,380 So, yeah, I play sports. 42 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:53,900 Okay. 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,780 I take a bunch of math classes right now. 44 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,000 All right. Cool. 45 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:00,700 What's your sport? 46 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,020 Football. Football? Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. 47 00:03:04,380 --> 00:03:10,280 And how old are you? I just turned 18 not too long ago. Okay. Yeah. All right. 48 00:03:12,330 --> 00:03:17,630 Yeah, I like hanging out with girls, working out, and, you know, just playing 49 00:03:17,630 --> 00:03:19,250 sports and hanging out with friends. 50 00:03:19,610 --> 00:03:20,610 Okay. 51 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:27,310 And, Joshua, why would you say that you're here today? 52 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:30,610 My mom. 53 00:03:31,150 --> 00:03:32,390 Right? Mm -hmm. 54 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:34,390 Your mom? 55 00:03:35,170 --> 00:03:39,510 Um, for some reason, it's always just... very tense around her and she seems 56 00:03:39,510 --> 00:03:41,610 aggravated and she doesn't want me around. 57 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:46,990 This was his father's idea. 58 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:51,370 Okay. You are with my dad. 59 00:03:52,770 --> 00:03:53,770 Yes. 60 00:03:55,290 --> 00:04:01,270 Okay. I always see this. 61 00:04:02,330 --> 00:04:04,790 Well, okay. So things are tense. 62 00:04:05,630 --> 00:04:06,630 Yeah. 63 00:04:07,140 --> 00:04:12,860 Jessica, what would you say is the underlying reason for your visit today? 64 00:04:13,660 --> 00:04:16,160 He just doesn't fit my lifestyle. 65 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:23,240 He's always just there, doing things. 66 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:31,240 And I come from, you know, a certain kind of 67 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,540 society, and I just feel like he's not part of that. 68 00:04:36,430 --> 00:04:40,070 And, you know, he's a teenage boy, you know. 69 00:04:40,510 --> 00:04:41,510 Yes. 70 00:04:41,770 --> 00:04:42,770 Yeah. 71 00:04:42,930 --> 00:04:44,930 He is a teenage boy. Grown woman. Yeah. 72 00:04:45,350 --> 00:04:46,350 Mm -hmm. 73 00:04:47,390 --> 00:04:52,550 Just, it's okay, I've already said this to you, he's kind of a loser. 74 00:04:53,690 --> 00:04:55,630 Okay. I just, ugh. 75 00:04:57,010 --> 00:05:01,790 Joshua, how do you feel about the use of that word? 76 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:06,320 Um, I honestly think what she meant to say was she uses my dad for money. 77 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,600 Oh, my God. 78 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,400 All right. 79 00:05:10,460 --> 00:05:16,540 How does that... Okay, so I use his dad for money. Okay, well, 80 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,960 maybe his dad uses me for my hot young buddy. I don't know. 81 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:26,080 But we are very happily married. I will let you both know. 82 00:05:26,420 --> 00:05:28,480 We have a very active sex life. 83 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,660 Okay, I mean, that's... 84 00:05:32,010 --> 00:05:33,790 Healthy in a marriage? It is. 85 00:05:36,510 --> 00:05:39,910 Maybe not Joshua's favorite thing to hear. 86 00:05:40,350 --> 00:05:42,470 No. You can put in headphones. 87 00:05:44,570 --> 00:05:45,710 Alright, okay. 88 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:50,130 Or you can not sound like a obnoxious porn star when you're doing it with him. 89 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:52,070 My house is one sound. 90 00:05:53,530 --> 00:05:57,270 So there is a lot of tension at home. 91 00:05:57,630 --> 00:05:59,710 Yeah, she sounds like screeching tires. 92 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,620 That is a very specific criticism. 93 00:06:05,060 --> 00:06:06,060 Wow. 94 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,980 I never knew you were listening so closely. 95 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,280 Here's what, let's try something, because I feel like we're just kind of 96 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:17,320 we are getting into it here. 97 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,900 So I have an idea of something that I would like to try with the both of you, 98 00:06:24,900 --> 00:06:26,640 you're open to it. 99 00:06:28,780 --> 00:06:35,100 It's like a little game, and what it does is it requires both of you 100 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:40,660 to say something nice about the other one. 101 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,600 There's just some more rules to it, but that's the basic premise of the game. 102 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:45,660 That's the first part. 103 00:06:46,780 --> 00:06:48,540 Okay? I don't know if I have anything to say. 104 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:54,060 Whoever wins, whoever wins the game gets to know that they won the game because 105 00:06:54,060 --> 00:06:55,740 they won. I do like to win. 106 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,860 That's something that you can do, right? 107 00:06:58,830 --> 00:07:00,450 Yeah, I am good at winning. 108 00:07:01,030 --> 00:07:03,150 Okay, so you can focus? 109 00:07:03,430 --> 00:07:05,310 Mm -hmm. All right, so are we going to play? 110 00:07:06,410 --> 00:07:07,830 I suppose so. 111 00:07:08,330 --> 00:07:14,210 I suppose so, because it's required, and your father made it quite clear that 112 00:07:14,210 --> 00:07:15,670 this is an ultimatum, so. 113 00:07:16,090 --> 00:07:18,910 That was his dad's idea with therapy or else? 114 00:07:19,210 --> 00:07:20,210 Or else, indeed. 115 00:07:20,890 --> 00:07:24,630 Okay, well, you know, it sounds like he kind of agrees with you that he wants 116 00:07:24,630 --> 00:07:25,830 things to be harmonious. 117 00:07:26,250 --> 00:07:29,510 At home? I mean, that would be nice for both of you, wouldn't it? Like, this 118 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:31,930 isn't like a fun state to exist in, this tent. 119 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:35,990 No, it's giving me forehead wrinkles. I could get another Botox appointment. 120 00:07:36,430 --> 00:07:39,150 Yeah, we don't want to load up on Botox if we don't have to. No. 121 00:07:40,050 --> 00:07:41,050 All right. 122 00:07:41,170 --> 00:07:44,850 Well, it sounds like you're both okay with the idea of playing my little game. 123 00:07:44,990 --> 00:07:45,990 Okay. 124 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:51,110 So, let's have both of you stand up right where you are. 125 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:52,350 Okay. 126 00:07:53,090 --> 00:07:55,570 And, Mom, let's have you say... 127 00:07:57,289 --> 00:07:59,690 Done. Josh, let's have you face Jessica. 128 00:08:00,110 --> 00:08:02,370 And we need eye contact. 129 00:08:03,530 --> 00:08:08,350 Okay. Yeah. It can be a little bit awkward just looking someone right in 130 00:08:08,350 --> 00:08:09,430 eyes like this. A little. 131 00:08:10,110 --> 00:08:11,750 But you two are family. 132 00:08:12,610 --> 00:08:16,710 You can do this. You should be doing this every day. Lots of eye contact. 133 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:19,530 Right? Making eye contact. 134 00:08:19,750 --> 00:08:21,970 Very good. Eye contact, okay? 135 00:08:22,610 --> 00:08:24,390 Yeah. Excellent. 136 00:08:25,090 --> 00:08:26,090 Now. 137 00:08:26,570 --> 00:08:31,710 Do I have a volunteer to go first, or am I going to flip a coin here? 138 00:08:32,250 --> 00:08:34,970 Either way is fine. I'll do it. You'll do it. Okay. 139 00:08:35,770 --> 00:08:36,770 Jessica's going first. 140 00:08:37,130 --> 00:08:43,650 While maintaining eye contact with Joshua, with the sun, I want to hear one 141 00:08:43,650 --> 00:08:45,190 nice thing. 142 00:08:47,690 --> 00:08:48,690 Oh, boy. 143 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:49,870 Just one. 144 00:08:51,970 --> 00:08:53,090 Well, there's one thing. 145 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:54,370 Okay. 146 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,320 I don't know if it is quite appropriate to say, but I guess we are in therapy. 147 00:08:59,660 --> 00:09:00,660 Okay. 148 00:09:01,020 --> 00:09:07,120 One day, Joshua was taking a shower, and he left the door open. 149 00:09:07,940 --> 00:09:13,800 And I walked by, and I happened to see something that I was not quite 150 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,100 He was masturbating. 151 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:21,620 Okay. 152 00:09:22,250 --> 00:09:23,370 It's okay, eye contact. 153 00:09:23,590 --> 00:09:27,830 It's okay, eye contact. As I said before, I have a very active sex life 154 00:09:27,830 --> 00:09:34,130 father. I noticed he's quite 155 00:09:34,130 --> 00:09:37,410 more endowed than his father is. 156 00:09:38,050 --> 00:09:39,050 What does that mean? 157 00:09:41,430 --> 00:09:42,850 Can you clarify? 158 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:46,730 Yeah, you have a big dick. 159 00:09:48,010 --> 00:09:49,970 You have a big dick. You have a really big dick. 160 00:09:52,839 --> 00:09:55,200 Okay. I guess that's a compliment, right? 161 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,760 That's a good thing. 162 00:09:57,100 --> 00:09:59,220 I would say that's a good thing. Okay. All right. Good. 163 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:04,380 We are getting right into it. We are diving right in. 164 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Okay. 165 00:10:07,380 --> 00:10:09,960 I don't know how I feel about hearing that from my mom. 166 00:10:11,140 --> 00:10:16,120 Well, you're the one who left the door open. Well, let's not focus on how 167 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,200 happened, but just in general. 168 00:10:19,630 --> 00:10:23,670 Joshua, that's something that a young man might like to hear if it was from, 169 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:27,230 know, maybe a girl that you were interested in or something. 170 00:10:27,550 --> 00:10:28,790 Right? That's a positive. 171 00:10:29,350 --> 00:10:30,710 I would say that's a positive. 172 00:10:31,090 --> 00:10:36,690 If I were you, I would love to have a big dick, as your mom puts it. 173 00:10:37,650 --> 00:10:38,650 Okay. 174 00:10:40,010 --> 00:10:41,010 Thank you, Mom. 175 00:10:41,870 --> 00:10:42,870 Thank you, Mom. 176 00:10:43,450 --> 00:10:44,530 No problem, son. 177 00:10:44,930 --> 00:10:48,810 Okay. All right. That was so good. Jessica, that was so specific. 178 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:55,390 And you both, you know, maintained eye contact throughout it. That was great. 179 00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:58,730 You did it. A little bit lighter. 180 00:10:59,010 --> 00:11:00,010 A little bit lighter? 181 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:04,030 Yeah. That was great. You got right into it. That was so much easier than I 182 00:11:04,030 --> 00:11:05,030 thought it was going to be. 183 00:11:05,830 --> 00:11:09,670 Which means that somebody else turned. 184 00:11:10,210 --> 00:11:11,210 Yeah, my turn. 185 00:11:11,410 --> 00:11:12,409 Mm -hmm. 186 00:11:12,410 --> 00:11:15,790 Okay, eye contact, deep breath, and? 187 00:11:17,870 --> 00:11:18,870 You have big tits. 188 00:11:19,510 --> 00:11:20,510 Oh. 189 00:11:20,830 --> 00:11:23,290 Well, I'm not exactly hiding them, am I? 190 00:11:25,150 --> 00:11:27,410 All right. And I think about fucking them a lot. 191 00:11:28,290 --> 00:11:31,810 Oh. Oh, well. Okay. Well, that's more. 192 00:11:32,250 --> 00:11:33,250 That's more. 193 00:11:33,450 --> 00:11:39,390 We got right into it. You two are doing... I've wanted to say that for so 194 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:40,490 All the work. Okay. 195 00:11:41,890 --> 00:11:43,250 Oh. Okay. 196 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:47,290 Thank you. Oh, thank you, Joshua, for... 197 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,660 saying that I have big tits and that you want to fuck them. You're welcome, Mom. 198 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,220 All right. 199 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:00,940 You know, I was going to have us go for a few rounds, but I can't imagine 200 00:12:00,940 --> 00:12:03,440 anything stopping that. 201 00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:04,660 Good job. 202 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:05,679 Good job. 203 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:08,940 Give yourselves a round of applause. That was awesome. 204 00:12:09,380 --> 00:12:11,340 Yeah. I think I get to feel a little bit better. 205 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:14,640 Well, now we have a whole lot to talk about. 206 00:12:15,870 --> 00:12:18,490 You two can both sit back down if you like. Thank you. 207 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:24,170 That was very specific. 208 00:12:24,850 --> 00:12:25,850 Okay. 209 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:30,910 How are you feeling, Jessica? 210 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:36,670 You know, I feel like I've gotten something off of my large chest, 211 00:12:37,610 --> 00:12:40,630 Okay. So, you know. 212 00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:42,930 Did you know that you felt that way? 213 00:12:44,030 --> 00:12:49,270 Well. I've seen him looking, certainly, but, you know, there's a lot to look at. 214 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:54,370 But I didn't know he felt like that, quite specifically. 215 00:12:54,810 --> 00:13:00,190 Can I ask, um, is this what you're wearing? Did you dress up for therapy 216 00:13:00,290 --> 00:13:07,290 or is this a daily outfit for you? I, well, I like to look gorgeous, you 217 00:13:07,290 --> 00:13:11,030 know? I like to be well -dressed all the time. I don't like to go out in public. 218 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,680 Without my hair done, my nails done, my makeup done, and without my best outfit 219 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:17,680 on. Okay. 220 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:20,300 Your appearance is important to you. You take pride in your appearance. 221 00:13:20,540 --> 00:13:23,940 Absolutely. So it must have felt nice to have that complimented. 222 00:13:24,860 --> 00:13:26,460 Yes. Mm -hmm. It did. 223 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,820 Okay. I would say so, yes. 224 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Mm -hmm. 225 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:36,200 And, Joshua, did you know that Mom had 226 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,460 seen your penis? 227 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:41,369 Mm -hmm. 228 00:13:41,370 --> 00:13:42,590 No, you didn't know about that? 229 00:13:42,810 --> 00:13:49,090 No, I've always, like, I didn't know it was big. 230 00:13:50,050 --> 00:13:55,430 Okay. Well, you know, you're at the age where boys are figuring out how they 231 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:58,030 measure up, as it were. 232 00:13:59,170 --> 00:14:00,170 Okay. 233 00:14:00,770 --> 00:14:05,910 Do we feel like maybe the... 234 00:14:07,470 --> 00:14:11,110 Well, let me start by saying that in my office, I really like to use the proper 235 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:16,430 words for things at all times. I really don't like to beat around the bush, and 236 00:14:16,430 --> 00:14:19,930 I feel like sometimes that can take some easing into. 237 00:14:20,950 --> 00:14:24,410 But I also feel like, you know, we've established a rapport so we can sort of 238 00:14:24,410 --> 00:14:27,450 speak plainly, correctly, use proper words for things. 239 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:31,050 Are we feeling comfortable with that? 240 00:14:31,330 --> 00:14:32,330 Yes. Okay. 241 00:14:33,250 --> 00:14:36,410 So I was going to ask if... 242 00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:43,480 You feel like the sexual tension between you two might be 243 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,220 underlying the tension tension. 244 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,940 You know, I haven't quite thought of it like that. 245 00:14:54,380 --> 00:15:00,600 I suppose there is something there. 246 00:15:04,460 --> 00:15:09,260 You know, something I can't help but notice. And then I try to 247 00:15:09,260 --> 00:15:12,260 bottle up, I suppose. 248 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:15,140 I have been drinking more wine recently. 249 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,700 How do you feel about that? 250 00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:19,680 Amazing. Oh, okay. 251 00:15:20,060 --> 00:15:21,060 All right. 252 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,460 Excellent. So we have a wine mom in the house. 253 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Mm -hmm. Okay. 254 00:15:28,620 --> 00:15:30,980 I was reposting meals on Facebook. 255 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Mm -hmm. 256 00:15:36,579 --> 00:15:39,520 Joshua, how do you feel about that? Do you feel like there's been some sexual 257 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:46,380 tension? I mean, you mentioned thinking about your mom's breath in a 258 00:15:46,380 --> 00:15:47,380 sexual way. 259 00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:52,220 Yeah, I'm kind of jealous of my dad. 260 00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:55,340 There's a lot to be jealous of. 261 00:15:55,940 --> 00:15:59,960 All right, well, that's understandable. 262 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,800 How would you describe your mom's breath? 263 00:16:06,410 --> 00:16:08,350 A lot bigger than the other girls in school. 264 00:16:09,010 --> 00:16:12,550 Okay, a lot bigger than the other girls in school. 265 00:16:13,010 --> 00:16:14,930 Well, I hope so. 266 00:16:15,710 --> 00:16:22,590 Yeah, a term that kids use now is mommy milkers, and she definitely 267 00:16:22,590 --> 00:16:23,790 has mommy milkers. 268 00:16:24,110 --> 00:16:25,110 Okay. 269 00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:28,570 Mommy milkers, that's a new one for me. 270 00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:32,730 I'm not a hit and miss it with the kids anymore, I suppose. 271 00:16:33,230 --> 00:16:34,970 I can see it, I know. 272 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,900 You know, I can see that term being... It occurs, yes. 273 00:16:40,180 --> 00:16:41,200 But yeah, all right. 274 00:16:41,660 --> 00:16:43,280 They're kind of like jugs, I guess. 275 00:16:43,620 --> 00:16:45,800 That might be a word that you use. 276 00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:47,020 Jugs. 277 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:50,060 What exactly is the age difference here? 278 00:16:50,620 --> 00:16:55,660 Did you... Well... What's the age difference between you and his father? 279 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,560 he's 33 years my senior, but he has a lot of money. 280 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,640 Okay. 281 00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:07,579 So I think that's sort of smooth things over, you know? Okay. So it's a 282 00:17:07,579 --> 00:17:09,380 convenient relationship. 283 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,040 Yes, I mean, it is very convenient for me. But you also said it was very 284 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,640 physically affectionate. Oh, yes. 285 00:17:17,980 --> 00:17:23,280 Oh, definitely, yes. I try to make sure I earn my keep, you know? 286 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,940 Okay. Yeah. 287 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:31,320 Well, Josh, it sounds like your dad is pretty happy with his relationship 288 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,320 with... 289 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:34,100 Your mom. 290 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:40,760 And, you know, I'm sure you'd like 291 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,700 that to change. Yeah, I want her to be nice to me. 292 00:17:45,660 --> 00:17:51,120 So, what I'm hearing at this point is that there's some underlying sexual 293 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:52,120 tension at home. 294 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,140 There may be some jealousy, a little bit, Joshua. 295 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,440 And... 296 00:18:03,630 --> 00:18:07,790 You said you feel like he doesn't fit into your lifestyle, Jessica. 297 00:18:08,130 --> 00:18:09,710 Not quite. 298 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:13,330 But I could change him. 299 00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:15,210 I think I could change him. 300 00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:17,010 Can you be specific? 301 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:24,270 I think I could make him fit more into my life. And just change 302 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:30,890 a little bit here and there. Maybe not so much of the football type 303 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:32,670 stuff. Maybe... 304 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:35,870 I'd like to see you get a nice, well -paying job. 305 00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:40,330 Not chasing the silly football thing. 306 00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:42,790 And I'm in school, what do you expect? 307 00:18:43,230 --> 00:18:44,230 I don't know. 308 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:45,950 Okay. 309 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:53,690 So it seems like perhaps, Jessica, you're imprinting a little bit on Joshua 310 00:18:53,690 --> 00:18:54,710 be more like his father. 311 00:18:55,310 --> 00:19:00,570 Yes, and yet, there is... It's so funny. 312 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:08,320 that his father is everything I want, except he's a 313 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,740 little lacking downstairs. 314 00:19:11,740 --> 00:19:13,240 Oh, okay. 315 00:19:16,180 --> 00:19:22,540 Which is why I'm not sure where, uh, Joshua got, um, 316 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:29,060 everything that he has, but who knows, I suppose? 317 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,460 All right. Oh, 318 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,540 goodness. You already hear us have sex. 319 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,860 Let's just, in this room, let's say that we can open things to discussion and 320 00:19:44,860 --> 00:19:50,720 maybe use this as sort of like a chamber where we can work things out. And then 321 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,220 once we're out the door, we can have a different set of rules. 322 00:19:54,620 --> 00:19:56,920 And, like, in here we can lay the groundwork for the rules. 323 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,700 So we can talk openly. Remember how I... 324 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Talked about, like, using proper words for things and stuff like that. So we'll 325 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:11,840 speak openly in here, but then maybe outside of this room, Joshua might be 326 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:17,540 entitled to a little bit more subtlety. 327 00:20:17,740 --> 00:20:21,980 Subtlety. Subtlety. I believe I can do that. Right. And you will know, Jessica, 328 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:25,220 that you will have somewhere that you can speak openly. 329 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,879 Of course. 330 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:27,880 Is that a compromise? 331 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,619 I think so. 332 00:20:29,620 --> 00:20:32,620 Okay, and we'll just see how it works. And if it doesn't work, we can tweak it, 333 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,640 right? Mm -hmm. 334 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,080 Okay. Good to me. 335 00:20:35,700 --> 00:20:41,420 So we have established that maybe there is some underlying sexual tension that 336 00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:46,680 leads to more tension at home, some jealousy on Joshua's behalf, and 337 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:53,480 not exactly maybe jealousy on... Well, how 338 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,580 would you describe, Jessica, ultimately, how you feel? 339 00:20:57,260 --> 00:21:00,580 I feel like you are saying that you are imprinting on Josh that you wish he was 340 00:21:00,580 --> 00:21:05,680 more like his father, but also that your favorite thing about Josh thus far is 341 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,240 something that he has different from his father. 342 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,800 So maybe it's just a little bit of envy. 343 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:16,279 It's okay. 344 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,520 A little bit of envy. 345 00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:23,820 Maybe on both sides a little bit. I just want the best of everything in every 346 00:21:23,820 --> 00:21:25,480 department. I mean, it's what I deserve. 347 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,400 Okay. Why not have everything? 348 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:36,020 And has there been any acting on the sexual tension at all? 349 00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:41,640 Goodness, no. I mean, I'm his mother, for goodness sake. 350 00:21:42,020 --> 00:21:44,660 Well, okay. I mean, I guess so. 351 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,680 Can I ask why that's an enforcement? 352 00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:52,220 Can you put into words, like, very specifically what the problem is? 353 00:21:52,620 --> 00:21:53,620 What? 354 00:21:56,110 --> 00:21:58,030 Wrong. Would it not? 355 00:21:59,650 --> 00:22:06,570 Well, you know, ultimately, as a therapist, what we 356 00:22:06,570 --> 00:22:12,890 talk about making someone healthy, there has to be an underlying harmony and 357 00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:13,890 happiness. 358 00:22:14,110 --> 00:22:17,790 Comfort. You know, it's one of the things that we're going to try to do 359 00:22:17,790 --> 00:22:22,550 having this be like a safe space, and then out there we're going to have more 360 00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:25,110 harmony, but then in here we can work through these. 361 00:22:25,340 --> 00:22:26,760 these complex issues. 362 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:34,380 Yes. So sometimes what I like to do with my clients is 363 00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:39,580 to allow them a space where they can explore maybe these more 364 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:42,200 taboo urges. 365 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:44,120 Okay. 366 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:50,780 And working them out in here can allow things to be a little bit more 367 00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:53,920 relaxed, comfortable. 368 00:22:55,470 --> 00:23:01,790 happy, healthy, out there in, you know, the real world. 369 00:23:03,890 --> 00:23:08,190 So how would you two feel about playing another game? 370 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:12,350 Well, 371 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:18,830 it has to do with sort of reacting to each other without preconceived ideas. 372 00:23:21,090 --> 00:23:22,930 Well, I'll write it. 373 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,520 Okay, I'm glad. 374 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:31,060 Good. All right. 375 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,100 Go ahead and give it a shot. 376 00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:40,840 Okay, let's have everyone again stand up, please. 377 00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:01,000 Someone took a volunteer to go first. Let's have a volunteer. Who's going to 378 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,640 first? I'm going to go first. You're going to go first this time? Okay. 379 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,680 Well, thank you very much, Joshua. 380 00:24:08,420 --> 00:24:13,380 Let's have you, and with Jessica's consent, 381 00:24:13,580 --> 00:24:20,400 I would like for Joshua to maybe explore. 382 00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:24,420 I would like to have Joshua, please. 383 00:24:28,990 --> 00:24:33,890 feel the part of Jessica's body that he is finding so distracting. 384 00:24:35,570 --> 00:24:38,010 Oh. And entrancing. 385 00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:46,550 I am not sure how this is supposed to, what this is supposed to do exactly. 386 00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:50,190 Well, you know, it's something that you two haven't tried before, and I feel 387 00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:55,110 like it would really help you release a lot of that tension to just kind of like 388 00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:57,310 have a place where you can explore those urges. 389 00:24:57,980 --> 00:25:02,280 And see if it really is a problem, if there's a big deal, if it changes 390 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,280 anything. 391 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:04,500 Oh. Oh. 392 00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:05,740 Wow. Okay. 393 00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:09,640 Is that still going to be recording? 394 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,360 I mean, I take full notes on all of my sessions. 395 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,160 I mean, it's just that it's going to catch me, like, touching my mom's boobs. 396 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,760 Yeah, it will. But, you know, I mean, it's not like I'm going to put it online 397 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,380 or anything. It just goes right into my encrypted file. 398 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Okay. Ain't no big deal at all. Okay. 399 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:34,900 I am a professional. I wouldn't be suggesting it if I thought it was in any 400 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:35,900 a problem. 401 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,960 Okay. Are you okay with it, Joshua? Do you think that it's worth a shot? Worth 402 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,960 shot? Yeah. 403 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,720 And, you know, Jessica, if you decide you absolutely hate it, it's like it 404 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,000 didn't even happen, right? 405 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,440 Yeah. 406 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,060 Okay. All right. Worth a try. All right. 407 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,880 Looks like Josh is ready to go. Okay. 408 00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:01,700 Do you have to go just deep breaths? 409 00:26:05,380 --> 00:26:10,120 It's okay for both of you to talk about what you're feeling emotionally, 410 00:26:10,460 --> 00:26:11,460 feeling, or physically. 411 00:26:11,740 --> 00:26:14,540 Okay. Thank you. 412 00:26:15,180 --> 00:26:16,180 Thank you, Josh. 413 00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:18,540 Very squishy. 414 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,820 Yeah, they're real. 415 00:26:21,660 --> 00:26:22,940 Probably didn't have to pay for that. 416 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,520 Okay. Okay. 417 00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:30,620 Is that okay? 418 00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:34,500 You don't have to stop if you don't want to. I mean, if you're finished, that's 419 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,840 fine, too. But if you'd like to get in there. 420 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,020 Interesting. What else can we do? 421 00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:44,540 Well, I mean, you haven't even pulled her top down yet. Oh, oh, oh. 422 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:46,620 Well, you could certainly ask her. 423 00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:48,900 Can I pull your top down, Mom? 424 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,040 Well, I've never been nude on film before. 425 00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:56,360 Oh, I mean, it doesn't really count, you know? 426 00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:03,620 I guess it's kind of fair if I'm choosing my wiener. I guess so. 427 00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:08,800 Do you feel like that's fair, Joshua, that she saw you naked? 428 00:27:09,740 --> 00:27:11,660 I would say it's fair. 429 00:27:12,220 --> 00:27:15,860 Maybe it would make things less awkward? 430 00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:17,140 Yeah. 431 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,680 Okay. That makes sense. 432 00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:23,840 Okay. That makes sense. 433 00:27:25,340 --> 00:27:26,340 Okay, then. 434 00:27:30,410 --> 00:27:31,410 Oh, there they are. 435 00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:34,810 Keep that dialogue going. 436 00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:36,770 Yeah. 437 00:27:37,610 --> 00:27:40,570 They're so, like, perfect. 438 00:27:42,270 --> 00:27:43,490 Thank you. And huge. 439 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:45,510 Yeah. And big. 440 00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:53,210 And everything I ever thought of when I see them bouncing across the room when 441 00:27:53,210 --> 00:27:54,149 she walks. 442 00:27:54,150 --> 00:27:58,370 I have noticed you looking. 443 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,040 And they're so bouncy. 444 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:06,320 Is there anything that you can say emotionally, Joshua, maybe about how 445 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,320 feeling? 446 00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:10,840 It's definitely getting my blood pumping a lot more. 447 00:28:11,060 --> 00:28:12,820 Okay, so excited, huh? 448 00:28:13,180 --> 00:28:15,120 Excited. Yeah, kind of nervous. 449 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,660 Okay. Okay. 450 00:28:18,140 --> 00:28:19,780 Definitely feeling a bit nervous. 451 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,139 Mm -hmm. 452 00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:22,140 Yeah. 453 00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:25,460 Feeling interesting. 454 00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:26,980 Mm -hmm. 455 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,660 I like hearing, like, nice deep breaths while we're doing this. Everyone's 456 00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:35,620 staying calm and wonderful. 457 00:28:38,460 --> 00:28:42,260 How would you describe what you're feeling physically, Jessica? 458 00:28:42,580 --> 00:28:46,560 Well, I like how you feel, Mom. 459 00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:48,140 Okay. 460 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,920 It feels nice to have you obliged like that. 461 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,880 Okay. So not altogether horrible. 462 00:28:58,220 --> 00:29:00,460 No. Actually kind of pleasant, physically. 463 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,320 Pleasant, that's a good word for it. 464 00:29:04,540 --> 00:29:08,400 Physically pleasant, while maybe still a little bit of anxiety. 465 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,260 Yes. But physically pleasant. 466 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,000 Yes. Okay. 467 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,240 Is he supposed to continue grabbing me like that? 468 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,760 You know, I hadn't really thought to set a timer or anything, but do you feel 469 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,960 like you're ready for your turn? 470 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Oh, I suppose. 471 00:29:25,340 --> 00:29:26,340 So? Okay. 472 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:29,060 All right. 473 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:36,440 Well, not to interrupt Josh, but let's give Mom a turn. 474 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,400 Okay. 475 00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:40,900 Although you might want to move your hands. 476 00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:43,040 Oh. Oh. 477 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,800 Wait, what? 478 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:51,480 So you had mentioned wanting to maybe explore or experience a little bit. 479 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,600 Well, breaths are one thing, and that's... I feel like an entirely 480 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,020 matter. What's an entirely different matter? We're using proper words for 481 00:29:58,020 --> 00:30:01,980 everything. Penis. Penis. Wait, you want my mom to touch my penis? 482 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,020 Well, I feel like she's seen it, and she's clearly just as curious about your 483 00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:08,720 penis as you were about her breasts. 484 00:30:11,340 --> 00:30:14,820 Well, I just... Was this an unpleasant experience? 485 00:30:15,340 --> 00:30:18,000 Was this something that... Okay. 486 00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:21,960 I just... 487 00:30:24,110 --> 00:30:25,890 A little hesitation, I suppose. 488 00:30:26,410 --> 00:30:30,250 Okay. I'm touching my, um, son's penis. 489 00:30:30,790 --> 00:30:31,769 Mm -hmm. 490 00:30:31,770 --> 00:30:35,250 Um. That's okay. Give what to your feelings? 491 00:30:35,730 --> 00:30:41,650 His, um, large, engorged sex organ. 492 00:30:41,890 --> 00:30:44,350 Mm -hmm. His prodigious phallus. 493 00:30:44,570 --> 00:30:45,570 Yes. 494 00:30:47,470 --> 00:30:51,510 Um, but, um, our, our. 495 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,640 This is going to help? 496 00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:56,160 You know, I really do think that it is. 497 00:30:56,380 --> 00:31:02,600 Like I said, I've been doing this for a while now, and it really comes up a lot 498 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,960 more often than you might think in family situations. Oh, wow. And although 499 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,280 things don't always, you know, progress down this specific route, a lot of times 500 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,900 breaking tension is the only way to be free of it. So I like to encourage my 501 00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:19,280 clients to do it. 502 00:31:19,550 --> 00:31:23,830 Explore things that might not be socially acceptable but are still 503 00:31:23,830 --> 00:31:25,010 healthy to explore. 504 00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:32,730 All right. I mean, if we... You know, I'm right here. 505 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:34,750 You know, it's a very clinical setting. 506 00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:38,530 And Jessica, I understand your hesitation. I really do. 507 00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:41,530 But I want you to focus. 508 00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:47,110 And I want you to take every negative thought out of your mind. 509 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:55,180 And I want you to just focus on positive associations, indulgence, what exactly 510 00:31:55,180 --> 00:32:00,940 is driving you towards Josh's penis. 511 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,200 And just forget about anything that might be holding you back. I know that's 512 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,360 lot to ask, but I think that you can do it. 513 00:32:07,940 --> 00:32:13,700 Okay. Just, you know, remove those taboo associations if you need to think 514 00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:14,700 about. 515 00:32:15,010 --> 00:32:18,550 His father or someone else, you can do that. Okay. 516 00:32:18,910 --> 00:32:22,970 But eventually we're going to work you up where I want you to acknowledge what 517 00:32:22,970 --> 00:32:27,710 you're doing, be able to maintain eye contact, all that good stuff. Do you 518 00:32:27,710 --> 00:32:28,710 that you could start for me? 519 00:32:29,890 --> 00:32:31,490 Yes. Yes. Yes. 520 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:33,150 Get rid of that negativity. 521 00:32:33,370 --> 00:32:39,890 Get rid of those negative barriers. No more negative, just positive. 522 00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:41,229 Mm -hmm. 523 00:32:41,230 --> 00:32:43,250 And you're going to get to touch a big day. Okay. 524 00:32:43,860 --> 00:32:48,060 That's a positive. That's a positive. Just pretend it's a stranger if you have 525 00:32:48,060 --> 00:32:52,440 to. Just, you know, good -looking, young, footballer guy. 526 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:55,100 Okay. 527 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,880 Okay, just a penis. 528 00:33:01,260 --> 00:33:02,260 Oh, wow. 529 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:04,260 Oh, wow. 530 00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:05,460 Okay. 531 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,840 All right. 532 00:33:09,060 --> 00:33:10,060 Deep breath. 533 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Oh, boy. Okay. 534 00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:21,120 Definitely bigger than your father's. 535 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,960 Oh, wow. Okay. 536 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:26,260 Yeah. 537 00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:28,740 Oh, wow. 538 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,600 It's really big. 539 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,100 Yeah. 540 00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:38,240 Joshua, why don't you help mom out and undo your pants, please? 541 00:33:39,780 --> 00:33:40,780 Take it out? 542 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,380 Mm -hmm. I mean... 543 00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:45,300 Yeah, I think that would be equal. 544 00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:49,940 I guess since I have my breast out. 545 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,200 All the way? 546 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,800 All the way. 547 00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:59,780 Oh, wow. Oh, that is all the way out. Okay. 548 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,200 Oh, my goodness. 549 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,720 Oh, wow. 550 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,240 There you go. 551 00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:08,679 Go ahead. It's okay. 552 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:11,580 It's your body. You can touch it. 553 00:34:13,610 --> 00:34:14,610 All right. 554 00:34:16,570 --> 00:34:19,810 And Jessica, there it is. How does it feel? 555 00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:26,350 Looking at Joshua's exposed penis for the second time? Second time? Mm -hmm. 556 00:34:26,409 --> 00:34:31,409 Wow, it definitely looks better up close. 557 00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:32,710 Mm -hmm. 558 00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:34,230 Wow. 559 00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:36,030 Wow. 560 00:34:36,730 --> 00:34:38,550 Oh, and... 561 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,060 You're very direct. 562 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,239 Your tits. 563 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:51,320 That makes sense. 564 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,739 That makes sense. 565 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,280 Is there some reason you're kind of holding back? I feel like you're talking 566 00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,300 yourself into something. 567 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,560 I mean, it's just for... You're right. 568 00:35:03,860 --> 00:35:06,800 This is just therapy. 569 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:09,920 And I should just... 570 00:35:10,270 --> 00:35:17,150 Good -looking young guy with just this hard penis in my hand. 571 00:35:17,350 --> 00:35:18,350 Mm -hmm. 572 00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:19,870 Oh, wow. 573 00:35:21,470 --> 00:35:24,650 Excellent. Look at how much progress you've both made. 574 00:35:26,530 --> 00:35:29,870 Yeah, I feel like we're really getting somewhere now. 575 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:31,170 Mm -hmm. 576 00:35:31,790 --> 00:35:32,790 Beautiful. 577 00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:38,470 How does that make you feel? I feel like we're really... 578 00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:40,550 tapping into that sexual tension. 579 00:35:40,770 --> 00:35:41,770 Mm -hmm. 580 00:35:41,890 --> 00:35:42,890 Wow. 581 00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:45,130 Yeah. Yeah, 582 00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:48,990 I think that would help, maybe. 583 00:35:50,090 --> 00:35:51,090 Mm -hmm. 584 00:35:51,310 --> 00:35:52,310 Okay. 585 00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:57,030 Well, Josh, let's hear from you. How does that feel to have your mom actually 586 00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:59,430 touching your penis? 587 00:36:00,350 --> 00:36:01,690 I like it a lot. 588 00:36:02,110 --> 00:36:03,150 Okay. Yeah. 589 00:36:03,370 --> 00:36:04,630 So, would recommend? 590 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:06,430 Yeah. Okay. 591 00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:10,190 All right. 592 00:36:10,570 --> 00:36:16,550 So I have to say, I noticed that Joshua really got in there, Jessica. You really 593 00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:21,330 don't have to hold yourself back if you don't want to. 594 00:36:22,090 --> 00:36:24,190 Do you want to have a seat for me, maybe? 595 00:36:24,410 --> 00:36:27,850 Your breasts are up here, but Joshua's down here. Oh, okay. 596 00:36:30,570 --> 00:36:31,570 Oh, oh. 597 00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:35,730 Are you, is this, is this part of every? 598 00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:37,230 I just want to demonstrate. 599 00:36:37,390 --> 00:36:41,910 Well, I don't know if you need to quite do all of that. 600 00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:43,430 I don't mind. 601 00:36:43,630 --> 00:36:44,509 It's fine. 602 00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:46,910 I'm totally okay as well. Was this part of your diploma? 603 00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:48,790 Was it part of my exam? 604 00:36:49,830 --> 00:36:56,650 Oh, I just think that maybe you shouldn't be touching 605 00:36:56,650 --> 00:37:00,510 him like that. Does that make you feel maybe some of that jealousy again? 606 00:37:01,790 --> 00:37:03,350 Well, I just... 607 00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:08,720 I should be the one touching his cock. You should be the one. You were holding 608 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,980 back so much, Jessica. I thought maybe you were uncomfortable, but if you 609 00:37:12,980 --> 00:37:19,460 do want to get in there... Well, I think it would be better if I did. 610 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,320 We just met you. 611 00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:22,900 Uh -huh. That is true. 612 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,080 You did just meet me. Yeah. And if it's making you very uncomfortable, then I 613 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,260 would certainly encourage you to get in here and show Joshua that you can do a 614 00:37:32,260 --> 00:37:33,260 better job. 615 00:37:33,660 --> 00:37:36,600 of encouraging and exploring and enjoying him. 616 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,020 Well then, I will. 617 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,440 It's all yours. 618 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:45,740 Alright. 619 00:38:03,210 --> 00:38:04,210 This one. 620 00:38:05,530 --> 00:38:06,530 Okay. 621 00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:10,430 Do all your sessions go like this? 622 00:38:10,770 --> 00:38:12,570 Oh, no, no, no, no. 623 00:38:13,470 --> 00:38:16,730 Only with clients who are really serious about getting better. 624 00:38:17,350 --> 00:38:20,070 Okay. So this is really going to work, then? 625 00:38:20,510 --> 00:38:25,290 I think so. You know, it's always worth trying. Like I said, if it turns out 626 00:38:25,290 --> 00:38:27,190 that it's not working, we can readjust. 627 00:38:27,730 --> 00:38:31,950 So it's very low risk, and I always say wink. 628 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,120 You know, why not try everything? 629 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:36,320 That does make sense. 630 00:38:38,340 --> 00:38:43,440 Yeah, I think we're really releasing some built -up tension here. 631 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:49,660 Yeah. I can feel it. Yeah. Yeah. So Joshua, let's hear, how does that feel? 632 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:51,480 It feels really good. 633 00:38:51,740 --> 00:38:53,620 Is it a little bit different from before? 634 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,600 She's a little bit more tentative is how I would describe it. Uh -huh. 635 00:38:59,260 --> 00:39:01,860 How would you describe the way that she's touching you now, that your mom is 636 00:39:01,860 --> 00:39:02,860 touching you now? 637 00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:06,240 Very caring. I feel like she's super supportive. 638 00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:07,660 Oh, okay. 639 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,120 A very, very supportive mom. Very supportive handjob. 640 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,040 That is the kind of mom I want to be. 641 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,860 I just feel like I couldn't really access that part of myself before. 642 00:39:21,460 --> 00:39:24,320 Well, it seems to me that success is very important to you, Jessica. 643 00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:25,620 It definitely is. 644 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,600 I succeed at everything. 645 00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:35,400 And maybe you want to see Joshua succeeding more in ways that you 646 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,820 and ways that are important to you as well. Absolutely, yeah. 647 00:39:39,460 --> 00:39:46,180 Josh, how important would you say your mother's approval of you is on a scale 648 00:39:46,180 --> 00:39:47,180 one to five? 649 00:39:47,820 --> 00:39:48,860 It's very important. 650 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,800 Okay, all right, so it's up there. It's important that she approves of you. 651 00:39:53,220 --> 00:39:56,540 Yeah, it's kind of like the thought that she's been so... 652 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:04,000 different from me and just seems like she didn't want me in the house okay 653 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,140 i can understand how that might make you a little frustrated if your sister 654 00:40:08,140 --> 00:40:13,580 mother didn't want you around you know it's your house too right yeah 655 00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:20,540 i'm very proud of both of you oh my gosh looks 656 00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:22,120 like you're really enjoying that joshua 657 00:40:22,990 --> 00:40:26,670 Yeah, I'm very... Is that the right term? 658 00:40:27,170 --> 00:40:28,170 Yes. 659 00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:33,210 Well, you two are doing so well accepting each other. 660 00:40:33,490 --> 00:40:37,810 Oh, thank you. How would you feel about sort of 661 00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:44,670 fully, more fully sort of accepting each other? I feel like we're 662 00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:48,050 having good luck exploring your... Well, 663 00:40:49,630 --> 00:40:50,670 I feel like... 664 00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:56,630 There was an incident, Jessica, you said earlier where you saw Josh naked. 665 00:40:57,150 --> 00:41:02,510 Yes. I'm assuming that you weren't wearing bottoms in the shower. 666 00:41:03,470 --> 00:41:04,610 No. No? 667 00:41:05,210 --> 00:41:11,450 Probably not. So, Jessica, how would you feel about maybe being 668 00:41:11,450 --> 00:41:18,070 naked in session so that you and Josh could both sort of see each other more 669 00:41:18,070 --> 00:41:19,070 fully? 670 00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:21,730 At the same time. Am I getting fully naked? 671 00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:26,410 I was thinking about it. I was working my way up to it. 672 00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:34,770 I know we keep asking about this, but this is for sure going to stay private. 673 00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:40,550 Oh, don't even worry about the cameras. It's just, okay. It's nothing. It's 674 00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:44,670 really just like, you know, it's no different than the pen and the pad of 675 00:41:44,670 --> 00:41:46,430 sitting over here. Don't even worry about it. 676 00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:50,650 I can't have my football coach finding out. I don't want to lose the 677 00:41:50,650 --> 00:41:52,430 scholarship. Oh, no, of course not. 678 00:41:53,130 --> 00:41:57,010 No, it's very private. I don't think it'll be a problem. 679 00:41:57,710 --> 00:42:00,130 Is that your only concern? 680 00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:03,790 Yes, I am. 681 00:42:04,530 --> 00:42:05,530 Yes. 682 00:42:05,970 --> 00:42:12,350 Okay, well, if that's all going to be private and this is all just therapy, 683 00:42:12,350 --> 00:42:16,350 I think that's what I can do. I can remove. 684 00:42:17,450 --> 00:42:18,890 All of my clothes. Okay. 685 00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:20,808 All right. 686 00:42:20,810 --> 00:42:22,990 Let's have you go ahead and move those, then. 687 00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:24,390 All right. 688 00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:26,370 Joshua, same thing. 689 00:42:27,050 --> 00:42:28,050 Yeah. 690 00:42:32,450 --> 00:42:35,510 You can hand your things to me here, and I'll put them on the chair over there. 691 00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:38,510 Thank you. 692 00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:43,210 We've got a fun shirt and a mom skirt. 693 00:42:45,470 --> 00:42:46,470 Thank you. 694 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,960 Thank you. 695 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,120 Yeah. 696 00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:54,160 Thank you very much. 697 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,280 It goes right there. 698 00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:04,220 And let's have you two facing each other. Okay. 699 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,800 Okay. Excellent. 700 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,440 Wonderful. 701 00:43:14,060 --> 00:43:18,140 It does, you know, it does. Reviewed and accepted, both ends. 702 00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:21,040 Yeah. Yeah? Does that feel nice? 703 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,360 Mm -hmm. 704 00:43:22,580 --> 00:43:24,120 Good. That feels right. 705 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,080 So you two can feel completely at ease to just keep exploring each other. 706 00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:29,340 Oh, okay. 707 00:43:30,460 --> 00:43:36,080 Um, Joshua, you're so good about being so open like that. 708 00:43:37,220 --> 00:43:42,000 I feel like that's another positive, that he's very open to exploring, very 709 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,200 brave. Mm -hmm. 710 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,920 That is another positive. 711 00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:46,180 Thank you. 712 00:43:48,540 --> 00:43:50,920 You're welcome, son. We can keep hearing. 713 00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:52,500 Can I? 714 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,760 Well, I mean, I'm touching you there, so I guess it would be appropriate if you 715 00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,760 did the same. 716 00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:06,560 It's showing a lot of initiative, which I imagine is something else that's very 717 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,900 important to you, Jessica. 718 00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:09,140 It definitely is. 719 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,540 And Josh, you can continue to talk about things that... 720 00:44:12,910 --> 00:44:17,470 Mom, that you like, that you're enjoying, that you see positively. 721 00:44:19,530 --> 00:44:21,270 Her vagina is really nice. 722 00:44:22,230 --> 00:44:24,250 Your vagina is really nice, Mom. 723 00:44:25,170 --> 00:44:26,270 Thank you, son. 724 00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:30,370 Your dick feels very nice in my hand. 725 00:44:31,850 --> 00:44:34,030 And you're rubbing my clit very nicely. 726 00:44:35,870 --> 00:44:36,870 Wonderful. 727 00:44:37,850 --> 00:44:39,830 You have a really nice body. 728 00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:49,560 You can both talk freely, just kind of open yourselves up to expression. If 729 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,740 you're thinking something, it's okay to just let it out. 730 00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:57,100 Sometimes people go in weird directions. I'm hungry or something like that. 731 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,520 Don't worry about it too much. 732 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:07,440 You don't have to force it, but if something comes out, your skin is so 733 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,440 soft. 734 00:45:13,219 --> 00:45:14,740 Thank you. 735 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,780 You feel really nice to touch. 736 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,920 I'm really enjoying touching your cock like that. 737 00:45:25,580 --> 00:45:29,060 You're very bad at grabbing my penis. 738 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,060 Thank you. 739 00:45:41,859 --> 00:45:48,800 I'm going to 740 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:55,620 be too hung up on it. It's part of your vernacular, you know. 741 00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:58,260 But I do appreciate the effort. 742 00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,680 Very sweet. 743 00:46:01,220 --> 00:46:04,140 I feel like we're making a lot of progress. Yeah, me too. 744 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,880 That's wonderful that you two have opened up so much. 745 00:46:12,140 --> 00:46:13,760 There's so much more exploration. 746 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:21,280 So much more communication. And you both seem so much calmer and happier. 747 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:23,420 I definitely feel that way. 748 00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:30,180 Yeah, it feels like something's weight lifted off my shoulders. I think that's 749 00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:31,200 the term. Yeah. 750 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,440 And I know that it can seem a little bit strange to engage in these types of 751 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,660 therapies at first. 752 00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:42,190 But also once you sort of get into them, just a lot of those problems that seem 753 00:46:42,190 --> 00:46:45,170 so very important just kind of fall away. 754 00:46:45,810 --> 00:46:51,190 We're more confronted with each other's humanity and things go very different. 755 00:47:06,250 --> 00:47:11,310 The way you're rubbing my clit like that. 756 00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:12,510 Yeah. Mm -hmm. 757 00:47:15,350 --> 00:47:16,670 It's making me really wet. 758 00:47:17,490 --> 00:47:18,910 Really wet? Uh -huh. 759 00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:20,250 Yeah, it is. 760 00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:22,290 Uh -huh. 761 00:47:22,890 --> 00:47:25,870 You're like throbbing hard, Mom. Yeah, I can feel it. 762 00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:28,010 Oh, God, that's really hot. 763 00:47:29,810 --> 00:47:30,930 Does that feel good? 764 00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:32,190 Yeah. 765 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:34,330 I'm going to put a finger inside of me. 766 00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:35,550 You want me to? 767 00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:36,980 Yeah? Yeah. 768 00:47:38,380 --> 00:47:39,380 Yeah, like that. 769 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,320 Oh. 770 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,920 Oh, yeah, like that. 771 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,480 Oh, I know that. I do too. 772 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:47,720 Yeah. 773 00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:51,220 Oh. 774 00:47:52,420 --> 00:47:53,720 Oh, my God. 775 00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:56,160 Oh, my God. 776 00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:59,400 Does that feel good? Oh, it feels so good. 777 00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:01,860 Oh, my God. 778 00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:12,480 Oh, my God. 779 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,980 Oh, my God. 780 00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:15,220 Oh, 781 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,320 my God. 782 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:18,680 Oh, 783 00:48:19,540 --> 00:48:22,880 my God. 784 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,660 Oh, my God. 785 00:48:25,060 --> 00:48:29,860 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. 786 00:48:54,780 --> 00:48:56,900 You're both doing an excellent job. 787 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,520 Thank you. Thank you. 788 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,460 Thank you. 789 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,900 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 790 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,120 Thank you. 791 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,160 Thank you. 792 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:36,140 You two are doing so well. 793 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,580 I love it when my clients are open to new ideas. 794 00:49:44,860 --> 00:49:45,860 Yeah. 795 00:49:47,260 --> 00:49:48,260 Suggestions. 796 00:49:49,900 --> 00:49:51,840 New experiences. 797 00:49:58,029 --> 00:49:59,810 Oh. Is that okay? 798 00:50:00,070 --> 00:50:04,450 Yeah. I'd really love to be involved and help you to kind of figure this. Yeah, 799 00:50:04,530 --> 00:50:06,190 to just kind of like guide us. 800 00:50:06,450 --> 00:50:07,450 Yeah. 801 00:50:07,630 --> 00:50:10,750 Okay, yeah. I think that might be a good thing, yeah. 802 00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:12,610 Very hands -on therapist. 803 00:50:12,890 --> 00:50:14,630 Okay, I understand. 804 00:50:14,890 --> 00:50:16,050 Oh, wow. Oh. 805 00:50:17,070 --> 00:50:18,070 Oh, wow. 806 00:50:22,190 --> 00:50:25,510 We didn't get to this in the session, but I had a lesbian phase in college. 807 00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:26,790 Oh, okay. 808 00:50:28,170 --> 00:50:29,810 You'd be surprised how often you hear that. 809 00:50:32,490 --> 00:50:33,490 Mom, 810 00:50:36,970 --> 00:50:39,470 can I maybe kiss you? 811 00:50:41,010 --> 00:50:42,010 Yeah, yeah. 812 00:50:58,270 --> 00:50:59,270 Mom, 813 00:50:59,730 --> 00:51:02,410 you're a really good kisser. You are too, son. 814 00:51:20,780 --> 00:51:22,900 You two have been exploring this for a while. 815 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:30,120 I think it would be really great if Jessica, you sort of sat down on the 816 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,200 and sort of opened yourself up and let Joshua really take a look at you. 817 00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:35,620 Oh, yes. 818 00:51:36,140 --> 00:51:37,700 Do you think that would be okay? 819 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,960 Yes. I think she can probably show you. 820 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,280 Yeah, I'll show you. 821 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,100 I don't know if you've done this, but that's the idea. 822 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,560 I mean, 823 00:51:57,740 --> 00:52:02,180 I was just thinking looking, but I'm sure you'll get there eventually. Is 824 00:52:02,180 --> 00:52:03,820 something that's interesting to you? Yeah. 825 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,620 Yeah, she has a very pretty vagina. 826 00:52:07,260 --> 00:52:09,700 Mom, you have a very pretty vagina. 827 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,620 Sorry, I keep telling you I'm not her. 828 00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:14,300 Okay. 829 00:52:20,650 --> 00:52:21,650 Taste your mom's pussy. 830 00:52:25,070 --> 00:52:30,490 I can think of some words that I would describe your mother's vulva. 831 00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:34,470 One thing I would describe that clitoris was very hard. 832 00:52:36,030 --> 00:52:38,810 That is a very stiff little clitoris. 833 00:52:40,830 --> 00:52:41,870 Oh, my God. 834 00:52:43,090 --> 00:52:48,730 Oh, good job. Good job, baby. You're doing such a good job. 835 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,340 You're doing a good job, Mom. Yeah. 836 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,580 Your tongue feels so good. 837 00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:05,060 Like that. Oh, my God. 838 00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:10,300 Oh, yeah. 839 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,540 You're being so attentive. 840 00:53:38,479 --> 00:53:40,920 Just like that, good boy. 841 00:54:17,540 --> 00:54:22,660 You two are getting along so well. Someone had told me when you two came 842 00:54:26,340 --> 00:54:30,600 When the session was even over, you two would be getting along so well. 843 00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:32,560 I don't know if I would have believed it. 844 00:54:36,220 --> 00:54:37,880 You're a miracle worker. 845 00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:45,360 Oh my God. 846 00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:47,440 All that tension. 847 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,080 You're a very good therapist. 848 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,440 It helps when people are open to experiences and ideas. 849 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,960 This is so much better than the other one we went to named Phil. 850 00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:29,500 No one liked Phil. 851 00:55:38,060 --> 00:55:39,500 Does it feel good what she's doing, son? 852 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,300 Yeah, does it make your cock feel good? 853 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,700 Just a little bit of positive reinforcement. 854 00:56:20,090 --> 00:56:21,290 Oh, yeah. 855 00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:24,050 Oh, that feels so good. 856 00:56:24,290 --> 00:56:25,290 Oh, 857 00:56:26,010 --> 00:56:28,510 yes, that feels so good. 858 00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:31,550 I didn't give you my degree for nothing. 859 00:56:35,500 --> 00:56:36,880 cool down a little bit there. 860 00:56:58,030 --> 00:57:01,530 Open yourself up. I know that can be hard to do sometimes. 861 00:57:02,210 --> 00:57:03,210 Oh, definitely. 862 00:57:03,610 --> 00:57:08,950 I'm hoping that you're seeing that there are a lot of positive side effects to 863 00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:11,250 opening yourself up like that. Oh, it does. 864 00:57:11,530 --> 00:57:12,530 Oh, yeah. 865 00:57:13,230 --> 00:57:16,170 Oh, yeah. 866 00:57:16,550 --> 00:57:18,530 I feel really opened up now. 867 00:57:21,010 --> 00:57:25,990 There can certainly be pressure. 868 00:57:27,370 --> 00:57:33,250 to be perfect, to win all the time. It can make you sort of tense up. Very 869 00:57:33,250 --> 00:57:39,430 tense. Maybe close some doors rather than just opening them. Yeah, we're 870 00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:40,590 a lot of doors today. 871 00:57:45,370 --> 00:57:47,310 Let's see what's going down there. 872 00:57:48,070 --> 00:57:49,410 Very bad. 873 00:57:51,210 --> 00:57:53,910 Oh, my God. 874 00:57:56,490 --> 00:57:58,050 It's so very puffy down here. 875 00:58:00,010 --> 00:58:06,710 Look at that. All that juice 876 00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:10,950 just flowing out of there. I think that means that you're having a great time. 877 00:58:11,150 --> 00:58:12,150 I am. 878 00:58:13,770 --> 00:58:17,850 I think that you could just very, very gently, Joshua, like that with your 879 00:58:17,850 --> 00:58:21,870 tongue, just like the tip of it. Just a little gentle. 880 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,880 Oh, wow. 881 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,120 Oh, you're doing such a good job. 882 00:58:33,380 --> 00:58:36,020 So gentle, so precise. 883 00:58:36,820 --> 00:58:37,820 Yeah. 884 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,260 It's okay to show your mom that you're good at things. Show her where your 885 00:58:42,260 --> 00:58:45,980 talents lie, but maybe they're just a little bit more physical than your 886 00:58:45,980 --> 00:58:46,980 father's talent. 887 00:58:48,460 --> 00:58:51,340 Oh, yeah. 888 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,260 You're doing such a good job, son. 889 00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:58,360 Oh, I'm so proud. 890 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,040 Oh, God, that feels good. 891 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,220 Oh, my God. 892 00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:34,540 Absolutely gorgeous. 893 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,260 I thought you already knew that. 894 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,080 Thank you so much. I appreciate the compliment. 895 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,200 Spread open my back, little boy. 896 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,680 making a lot of progress today. 897 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,080 I'm glad you feel that way. 898 01:00:12,340 --> 01:00:14,020 Feel free to leave a review. 899 01:00:16,220 --> 01:00:17,340 Oh, yeah. 900 01:00:17,620 --> 01:00:22,020 I like that. Oh, my God. 901 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,740 Oh, fuck. 902 01:00:25,940 --> 01:00:26,940 Oh, God. 903 01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:29,860 Oh, my God. 904 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,420 Oh, my God. 905 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,120 Oh, my God. 906 01:00:54,210 --> 01:00:55,510 It's okay. 907 01:01:11,980 --> 01:01:15,480 Natasha, I feel like there's something more that you could be giving. 908 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:16,678 What's that? 909 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:21,440 Well, with that, you have no idea. You're an innocent boy. You just don't 910 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,960 know what you could possibly give her. 911 01:01:23,860 --> 01:01:29,600 I feel like you could. I feel like you'd be really good at it, actually. 912 01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:31,660 I feel like it's worth showing her. 913 01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:36,120 Yeah. Can you show her more things that you can do? Is that okay, Mom? 914 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:37,880 Yeah. Yes, Mom. 915 01:01:38,460 --> 01:01:39,460 Yeah. 916 01:01:46,540 --> 01:01:47,540 So beautiful. 917 01:01:47,660 --> 01:01:49,200 We should come together like that. 918 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,160 There we go. 919 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,360 All right. 920 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,700 Yeah, that's as big as he looks. 921 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,340 Yeah, definitely. 922 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,500 Can I take this off? 923 01:02:32,740 --> 01:02:38,020 Yeah There 924 01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:44,240 we go 925 01:02:59,410 --> 01:03:05,150 I'm just going to find a way to show off your hidden talent. 926 01:03:05,550 --> 01:03:06,970 Oh, my God. 927 01:03:08,010 --> 01:03:11,750 Have you done this before? 928 01:03:12,190 --> 01:03:13,190 Yeah. 929 01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:14,890 Oh, my. 930 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,440 Oh, show your mom what all that football is. I don't know what's in your body. 931 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:13,080 thing. 932 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,160 I'm glad. 933 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,100 I want you to feel like you've left with something. 934 01:05:21,290 --> 01:05:23,390 You took my tits right after. 935 01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:25,750 I sucked my son's dick. 936 01:05:31,670 --> 01:05:35,250 Guys, there's so much more give and take in this relationship now. 937 01:05:37,510 --> 01:05:42,430 A little bit of an ego boost. A little bit of self -esteem. 938 01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:45,630 Never ever. 939 01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:53,260 Oh, it would be considered a threesome. 940 01:05:54,340 --> 01:05:58,500 I think that if someone is there in like a medical capacity, then it's not 941 01:05:58,500 --> 01:05:59,500 really. 942 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,240 This is all professional. 943 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,760 You can still look forward to your first threesome. 944 01:06:04,020 --> 01:06:05,020 Yeah. 945 01:06:06,260 --> 01:06:08,240 This is all therapy, right, son? 946 01:06:08,540 --> 01:06:09,860 Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. 947 01:06:12,260 --> 01:06:15,200 We definitely need to sign up for the yearly package, mom. 948 01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:21,760 Obviously, I'm invigorated. 949 01:06:37,860 --> 01:06:41,660 You really like sucking my dick, Mom? 950 01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:45,860 Yeah. Yeah, I really like sucking your dick. It's better than my dad's. 951 01:06:46,340 --> 01:06:47,340 Oh, yes. 952 01:06:47,540 --> 01:06:49,200 Oh, yes. Oh, my God. 953 01:06:51,210 --> 01:06:53,410 Oh my God, your cock is so much better than your father's. 954 01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:56,890 Oh, this is what I've been missing. 955 01:07:05,090 --> 01:07:08,150 That's right, just enjoy that. Enjoy this new connection. 956 01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:41,799 That's it. 957 01:07:51,290 --> 01:07:52,570 Oh, there we go. 958 01:07:53,110 --> 01:07:55,290 Look at all that teamwork accomplished. 959 01:07:58,250 --> 01:07:58,870 Can I 960 01:07:58,870 --> 01:08:14,190 do 961 01:08:14,190 --> 01:08:15,049 yours too? 962 01:08:15,050 --> 01:08:17,010 Oh, um, sure. 963 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,960 Why not? Is that okay with you, Jessica? Yeah, I think that's okay. 964 01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:24,779 It's more experience. 965 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,080 Not quite as big, but I think I will still work. 966 01:08:50,410 --> 01:08:51,410 Hi. 967 01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:57,810 Look at that. It's popping up there. 968 01:08:58,029 --> 01:09:00,970 You're doing such a good job, son. Am I? Yeah. 969 01:09:01,210 --> 01:09:02,270 It's very pretty. 970 01:09:02,649 --> 01:09:03,830 It's very pretty. 971 01:09:05,950 --> 01:09:06,950 Beautiful. 972 01:09:07,990 --> 01:09:11,090 It looks so nice between a couple of eyes. Yeah. 973 01:09:13,229 --> 01:09:14,250 Oh, my God. 974 01:09:15,310 --> 01:09:17,450 Your eyes feel so good. 975 01:09:22,460 --> 01:09:24,460 I don't want my paint to look like it's a movie. 976 01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:27,279 What kind of movie are you watching? 977 01:09:29,180 --> 01:09:30,200 You naughty boy. 978 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,500 I don't like it. 979 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,180 There's no point to walk on that computer. 980 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:45,600 You want to share it with them? 981 01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:48,180 There you go. 982 01:09:50,569 --> 01:09:51,569 Thank you so much. 983 01:09:51,770 --> 01:09:52,770 Thank you. 984 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,080 I'd be a little bit jealous. 985 01:11:18,340 --> 01:11:19,340 Oh, really? 986 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,860 Of you, Jessica. 987 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,160 It looks very enjoyable. 988 01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:24,560 It does. 989 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:25,880 It is. 990 01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:30,320 It looks pretty great. Would you mind if I got, like, a sample? 991 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:31,680 Would that be okay? 992 01:11:31,740 --> 01:11:32,740 I think that would be okay. 993 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,840 Would that be all right? By giving my son a little bit more experience, you 994 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,380 know? I can fuck our therapist once? 995 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,400 Yes, son. Yes. 996 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:40,800 You can fuck our therapist. 997 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,180 Well, but it's not like that. This is therapy. 998 01:11:52,780 --> 01:11:57,220 I think we know what you mean. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. 999 01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,240 I won't get it. 1000 01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:04,400 Would she like it? 1001 01:12:04,660 --> 01:12:07,400 I was going to bring it over. Yeah. 1002 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,540 You know best. 1003 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,240 Okay. 1004 01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:29,030 That's a lot. 1005 01:12:29,250 --> 01:12:30,250 Yeah. 1006 01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:37,190 Oh, my God. 1007 01:12:38,010 --> 01:12:39,010 Yeah. Oh, wow. 1008 01:12:41,010 --> 01:12:41,769 Like that? 1009 01:12:41,770 --> 01:12:42,770 Yes, like that. 1010 01:12:42,830 --> 01:12:43,830 Mm -hmm. 1011 01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:45,690 Oh, my God. Yeah. 1012 01:12:45,930 --> 01:12:47,990 Look. Oh, my God. Do you want to sit down? Yeah. 1013 01:12:48,250 --> 01:12:49,250 Yeah. 1014 01:12:49,770 --> 01:12:50,950 Good job, son. 1015 01:12:51,550 --> 01:12:53,090 Oh, wow. 1016 01:13:14,860 --> 01:13:16,300 You're doing 1017 01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:26,900 so 1018 01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:28,900 good. You're doing so good baby. 1019 01:13:38,219 --> 01:13:39,660 They're so big. 1020 01:14:06,269 --> 01:14:07,530 That's my son. 1021 01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:10,010 I'm so proud of you. 1022 01:14:12,130 --> 01:14:14,750 Keep giving him that good dick. 1023 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,358 Oh my God, yes. 1024 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,360 Yeah. 1025 01:18:18,679 --> 01:18:20,080 Or do you want me to bend you over? 1026 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,360 What would you like more? 1027 01:19:08,750 --> 01:19:09,750 Yeah. 1028 01:19:40,650 --> 01:19:41,650 Oh, my God. 1029 01:19:42,570 --> 01:19:43,790 Oh, my God. 1030 01:19:44,050 --> 01:19:48,470 Oh, my God. 1031 01:19:51,710 --> 01:19:58,590 Oh, my God. 1032 01:19:59,010 --> 01:20:00,750 Look at you two working together. 1033 01:20:01,790 --> 01:20:04,050 Oh, my God. 1034 01:20:05,550 --> 01:20:08,950 It's so much better than bickering and criticizing. 1035 01:21:12,940 --> 01:21:14,060 Talking about a ride. 1036 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,460 I hear some noises. You were complaining about it, huh? 1037 01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:22,900 Yeah. 1038 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,840 Well, they're better when it's with me. 1039 01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:26,690 It's so hard to think when this is happening isn't it? 1040 01:23:07,490 --> 01:23:11,910 Yeah. Oh my god, you're doing such a good fucking job, yes. 1041 01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:09,130 Yeah, do you want me to come? 1042 01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:13,910 Do you want to come on your face? Yeah, come on your mom's face. 1043 01:28:41,590 --> 01:28:45,210 oh there's all that tension and i'm so proud of you 1044 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,060 How do you feel about maybe doing a bi -monthly session? 1045 01:29:09,380 --> 01:29:12,220 Does that sound good? That sounds great. Maybe even a weekly session. 1046 01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:17,280 We can start with weekly. Sure. That sounds great. You can make an 1047 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,280 online. 1048 01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:24,280 And if you would like to get cleaned up, there is a restroom right down the hall 1049 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:25,239 through Jordan Left. 1050 01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,900 Amazing. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. 1051 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,780 You guys are so great. You're just being transformed already. 1052 01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:32,020 I think so, yeah. 1053 01:29:33,070 --> 01:29:36,710 Thank you very much for choosing me. I'm so glad to be part of your journey. 1054 01:29:36,990 --> 01:29:41,310 Thank you for fixing mine and my mom's relationship. We're getting there. You 1055 01:29:41,310 --> 01:29:42,470 two are doing all the work. 1056 01:29:43,190 --> 01:29:44,410 Of course.